KYD Trucks
“Starting Small Now is Better than Starting Big Later”. This has been the philosophy of KYD since the beginning. If we waited for the truck and RV we have now, we would not have started at all!
It’s easy to become consumed with the process of finding the perfect RV or truck and wanting everything just right, but it’s as equally easy to start to believe that it’s not worth doing until you have it. No matter where you’re starting, remember that when you look back at your life, you’ll vaguely remember the equipment but cherish the memories you made.
Once you get started and finding the perfect setup isn’t holding you back, upgrading your truck and adding modifications adds convenience and comfort.
We stated with what we had and upgraded from there:
- 2013 F150 Platinum with the Raptor 6.2L gas motor
- 2017 F250 Lariat 6.7L diesel 3.55 gear ratio
- 2019 F450 Lariat 6.7L diesel 4.33 gear ratio
- 2019 F250 Platinum 6.7 diesel 3.55 gear ratio
2019 Ford F250 Super Duty
Truck Specifications: 6.7L diesel 3.55 gear ratio, 4×4, Platinum Trim with 20″ Michelin Tires
Some people were surprised we went back to an F250 considering the “mistake” we made during SN4 thinking that an F250 could pull a Grand Design Momentum 351. Yes, 3/4 ton diesel trucks have reduced payload capacity because the diesel engine is 700 lbs heavier combined with a reduced GVWR of 10,000 lbs. (mostly for market reasons – state regulations for registration and insurance). Yet, the F250 diesel is the ideal truck to tow an Airstream and most other travel trailers.
This season we partnered with Stage 3 Motorsports for these upgrades and they are providing the KYD community a promo-code (KYD) for up to 10% off through the end of May!
Use Promo Code “KYD” at Stage 3 Motorsports to get up to 10%
This is not an affiliate link – only savings to you and Stage 3 doesn’t do this often because they already provide the best prices with free shipping.
If you’ve been considering some truck upgrades, take advantage of the savings.
Soon we’ll release the video where we install an S&B 60 gal mid-ship fuel tank, ARB onboard dual air compressor, Airlift airbags, BAKflip MX4 bed cover, BedRug and Bed Slide. Being our 4th tow vehicle and testing various brands and mods, this is our best one yet!
2019 Ford F450 Super Duty
There is no truck sexier than the Ford F450 Super Duty! Yes, “eye of the beholder”… but with its wide track front axle and distinct front wheel with 10 lug nuts, it simply looks mean, while still being elegant. I suppose it’s obvious that I still have a crush.
There were some drawbacks for RV owners that travel. When it comes to tow vehicles, these are the same trucks you’ll be driving into town and parallel parking can be tricky. In fact, parking in general can be difficult. Finding a full-service car wash for dual wheel trucks is nearly impossible unless you’re in a big city. Many RV parks don’t allow you to wash your own equipment.
The F450 also rides rigid unless you have a load. Mostly due to the 19.5” tires that have a stiff sidewall with little to no flex. Once you add a load, the ride improves substantially.
The biggest pro to the F450 is the tight turning. The wide front axle and narrow tires create an unbelievable turning radius and combined with a long bed with 5th wheel, getting into tight RV sites is easier than many shorter bumper pulls.
Click the link to see the upgrades done to our Ford F450 Super Duty.
2017 Ford F250 Super Duty
This was the first diesel truck we purchased and it’s a night and day difference. As a result, I’ll never go back to gas and mostly for the resell value. I traded this truck into the dealer with 50,000 miles for $52,000 *on trade. But the thing I love most about diesel is its ability to climb hills, while towing, in 5th gear at 2,000 RPMs with no strain whatsoever.
Yes, diesel trucks are more expensive, but in our experience, we’ve gotten it all back when it comes time to sell and we get to enjoy the unlimited power along the way.
To see the upgrades done to this truck, click here.
2013 Ford F150 Gas 6.2L
This is where it all started. We bought this truck to pull a 2007 Malibu Wakesetter and it did a tremendous job with the 6.2L Raptor motor that is an option with the platinum trim. I put 100k miles on this truck on only replaced the wipers, battery, oil and fuel pump fuse. This was my third Ford to date and it was the performance of this truck that made a “Ford guy”.
This is the truck we had when learning how to RV. When we started, we didn’t know anything about weight distribution hitches or the possible upgrades to improve the safety and comfort of towing.
Initially, I installed helper springs to keep it level but didn’t like the clicking noises that came from them. Then we upgraded to Firestone Ride-Rite and the shop in Maine installed the brackets upside down and I didn’t discover the problem until visiting Taps Auto in Paso Robles, CA. You can watch that video here.
This was a great truck and we’ll never regret starting with what we had to get going. No matter where you are in your RVing journey, never let the perfect truck of upgrades stop you from getting started!
Hi Mark and Trish
I am new to your channel but i have been binge watching all of your adventures . And have one question about your new truck . Why did go with the f250 not the f350 Jon
The F250 is appropriate for the Airstream and most travel trailers under 30 feet. If there was any possibility of getting a 5er, I would have got a 350. The 350’s have an additional leaf springs which makes it slightly stiffer, but not much.
Your channel has been a big help for us newbies! Thank you so much. Needed a truck upgrade and after seeing these and your other truck reviews; we decided to trade our 2013 GMC 1500 (gas) for a 2015 F250 (diesel) to pull our 24′ Shamrock. Also thought the 350 was stiff.
Hey guys, been watching since season 1! You guys got us hooked and now we have a 2018 GMC 2500HD pulling the same rig as ” Grand Ginger” which is our first RV and we love it. We have travelled over 10k miles in 1 year and wanna thank you for all your content. Have fun with the Airstream, I’m sure one day we will move onto one of those, no slides and manual awnings seem like the way to go.
Chad from Canada
Hi Marc and Tricia,
I love watching all your experiences with the kids and different trucks and rigs you’ve had over the seasons. I’ve had three different travel trailers while our kids grew up (nothing the last 10 years). My wife and I will be retiring next year, we have really been debating between an F350 or F450 with the new 10 speed and getting a fifth wheel or travel trailer. I will be watching this season to see how you like the new truck and Airstream.
I also love watching JD at BTBRV review the different trucks and RV’s too. I’d like to know the differences you’ve found between the F250 towing the Grand Design/Airstream and F450 and Momentum. Do you find a big difference in the mileage between the F250 with the 3.55 & F45o, with 4.30 driving empty? I know as far as towing MPG it not easy to compare because of the weight difference between rigs. If you hadn’t sold the F450 with toy Ginger, would you have used it to tow the Airstream or was the ride to firm?
Be safe and hope to meet you guys on the road some day soon!
Looks like the upgrade links for the 450 and the first 250 are missing.
I’ll check out. Thanks.
Hello Marc and Trish
Did you sell the Jeep and trae drop camper ?
The Jeep is sold. A few people are interested in the Teardrop, but I haven’t officially made a listing yet.
Hello Marc,
I am looking to build the same setup you had on the first F-250; Viair compressor, air tank, and Firestone airbags. Since this is kind of a custom setup, I was wondering if you had a full parts list? I am trying to avoid buying the full kits from both manufactures and then tossing the leftovers (expensive and wasteful).
Thanks,
Mark (I spell it right) from Houston, TX.
S3M made a KYD kit https://www.stage3motorsports.com/1719KYDS3MASK-2017-2019-F250-F350-S3M-Keep-Your-Dream-Complete-Air-Spring-System.html
With the way you guys change rigs, I’m surprised to see you always in a Ford. Why is Ford your go to choice?
Marc and Trish,
My wife and I are new to RVing, we have watched all your videos on YouTube! Great advice! Love watching your shows! We noticed you guys went with solar power. Did you guys ever own a generator? We have a 32 ft mallard m26 with one 13,500 btu a/c just was curious of your opinion.
Thanks
Yes, the Toy Hauler had an on-board 5500 Onin gen. Now in the Airstream, we have a 1200 Firman. Gen are almost essential even with a fancy battery solar system for running the AC and researching quickly on rainy days.
Thanks for posting this info. I was racking my brain to remember what your newest truck was. Glad I found this.
On your season 9 reveal video, you show how you are able to open the tailgate of your F250 while hitched to your trailer. Can you share what hitch system you are using that allows this?
Thanks!
It’s the Blue Ox. I really like that I’m able to open the tailgate. What a pain it was not to!
Thanks! We have an F150 (at the moment) and the equal-i-zer. We have a topper and our two dogs ride in the back. I went with a longer shank which allows the tailgate to open but it’s not 100% ideal.
Cheers,
Matt
Hey Mark and Trish,
Yes, I binge watch your videos and love the great information you provide. We just finished using your excel sheet to calculate our 2019 F250 gas with tow package and 430 gears. We currently have a 2018 Imagine 2950RL and love it but would like a fiver with more bedroom space and closet space. We really want the GD Reflection 337rls but the numbers are looking very suspect and we may be too close to the limit. Any thoughts appreciated.
Curious what payload is on your Platinum F250? I am guessing that you don’t post this as you don’t want to give people the idea that all F250 will have this payload? it really depends on how many goodies on the truck will depend on how much it weighs.
I was looking at an F350 but payloads have increased astronomically this year and almost feels like I might be able to get away with an F250 and get a better ride. (And tighter turn radius)
Hi Marc!
I am a Noob who hasn’t left the driveway yet. Want to change that.
Love your vids — learning a lot! I am trying to make ready to pursue my “daydream” (I want to travel to Guy Fieri’s Triple D restaurants across the states to sample great food as well as see the sights, take in a ballgame, etc.) I know your mantra is ‘”start small, start now.” I can’t start yet, but I am trying to get there! You’ve also suggested to buy the RV first, if possible. Well, I didn’t do that. I bought the truck first (my old 1500 rusted out). Needed something, and I felt it was the best way to bring my dream into focus and be ready for the day I can go. Bought a 2017 Ford F350 diesel Crew Cab SRW regular bed. (Probably should have bought a dually 8-footer, because now I’m discovering quality truck campers are too heavy! Most with a slide will put me over my max payload of 3581.) So, the boat stays home and I am on to TTs and/or 5th Whls. Other truck stats: GWVR = 11,500; Front axle, 5990; Rear axle, 7230. Estimated weights: Curb, 8000; GCVWR, 28700; Tow Cap., 20,600. I would like to know how to narrow down TTs and 5th Whls based on what my optimal pin and towing weight is before I begin looking at brands, length/amenities, etc. Does that make sense? Won’t I save a lot of time not looking at bad options? My main priority is to tow safely and comfortably with the truck I have. My question is: where do I find information or what resource do I use to find my optimal raw numbers for trailers? From there I think I can filter amenities, price, etc. and get closer to the right trailer for me.
Need the right trailer,
Andy
Do you have the spreadsheet available that breaks down tow vehicle curb weight, gvwr, towing capacity, etc? I’d like to plug my rig into that sheet for a better visual on where I am with the weight. I’m well under capacity, but still would like to see it. I’d also like to plug in my estimate numbers, and then go weigh the rig and plug actual numbers in to see the difference. Thanks!
I grew up camping. Slide in Truck campers, tents, Class C, Class A. So I always knew “someday” we would buy an RV so my kids cam develop a love for it like I did. My finances won’t allow me to buy a 3/4 ton truck or 30+ ft bunkhouse. Thanks to your blog, we are gonna buy something my 2019 Ranger can pull so that “someday” is now. Thanks for the inspiration.
With any of your super duty trucks have you ever experienced the “death wobble” that is all over the news lately?
My wife and I have recently discovered you and Trish as we do not yet have a TT but one is imminent. I have an F-150 and I am doing my research on WDH with anti-sway. I noticed that you used to have a Hensley but have moved to a Blue-Ox. Was the Hensley worth the money? And could you drop the tailgate while hitched? I’d really like to be able to do that once we get our TT.
Thanks…we enjoy your videos every Sunday.
Ford
We ar looking at a half ton towable fifth wheel. Our truck meets the specs to tow but just wanted to hear your imput. We have found a half ton towable trailer that meets the weight specs.
Hi Marc & Trish,
I’m obsessed with your YouTube videos. Thank you very much for ALL the info you are sharing. Very helpful to us newbies.
We were worried that our 2020 F150 3.5 eco, SuperCrew with minimum tow pkg but do have a WDH wouldn’t pull our 264rlsl TT with just me and my husband but from the looks of what you had your F150 loaded with and the 28ft TT I think we will be just fine. I did see your spreed sheet but I could never really come up with the right numbers. I’m technically challenged. :).
Hope to see you out on the road some day. Stay safe.
Just got the 2020 F150 3.5L Ecoboost. I’m getting 20 mpg when not hitched to our Jayco 245RLS. Can’t wait until next summer when we’re out on the road for more than 5 weeks! Thank you, Mark & Trish for all the advice!! See you on the road
Thank you for all the great info! It just affirmed what we needed to get started. So can you give the tow hitch that you used for your first trailer of the best hitch you have used along the way. We went with a 25″ trailer and now need the tow hitch for it. Sorry not Ford fans but love the trucks. We have a 2019 Chevy Silverado RST (for now) and ready to start one of life’s great adventures!
Thank you for all your great info and passion for the RV life!
T.H.
Hi Marc and Trish,
I have just found your channel and have really enjoyed watching it and have been trying to watch from the beginning. We (my wife and youngest) have been RVing for a number of years and started small, Be fore kids the wife and I camped all the time. We are now on our 3 TT, 312 Lacrosse bunkhouse. We have had not had a chance to take it out yet this year, but I really have the bug to go after watching your channel. The question I have is when you went to Whistler and Banff, did you reserve or just drive in. I know that for the most part you do not reserve, but given Whistlers area just thought I would ask, Same question for when you went to Alaska, as these are 2 trips that the wife and I are hoping to do in the near future.
Thank you Ted.
Mark, can you send me a copy of your excel spreadsheet. I would like to run my numbers through. Looking at getting our first RV and don’t want to get to big for our current truck.
Thanks
David
Hi Marc and Trish,
Today is January 28, 2021. I just came across one of your videos for the first time. Not sure when it was produce, but I believe you were in Michigan and it was summer from the looks of your clothes and the trees outside of the window. I know that I will be watching more of your videos, but I wanted to go ahead and ask a couple of questions if I may. — I am retired but not really by choice from a planned income standpoint. Bonnie will retire March 31, 2021. We have only been married 7 years, so we have not had “a lifetime” for mutual planning. We both love the outdoors and have been occasional tent campers. We have often talked of taking an RV and traveling when she retires. At this point, we would not be RVing full-time. We will be on a very limited retirement budget. With this said, 1) How would you start this quest? 2) What are other sources of information would you explore? Thank you for any time and information you can offer!
Regards,
John Walker